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Journal Entry: Sun Oct 7, 2012, 10:08 AM
Due to unforeseen amount of everything unimaginable appearing in our submission requests, we have decided to update and revise our group rules. This time they will be short, concise, and idiot-proof.
These will be periodically updated, notably with new folder names and what goes where.


General rules:

1. Ignorance of the rules is no excuse.
If the first thing you did after joining wasn't reading the rules, don't expect any explanations on why something was done, or something was denied.

2. Rules are not written in stone.
Even though we try to adhere to the rules as much as we can, there always will be situations that are unique. Therefore everything will always be reviewd on a case-by-case basis.

3. The administrators words are final.
This really doesn't need explaining, does it? Don't argue when we settle on a matter.



Joining rules:
Anyone can join. Pure and simple.



Submission rules:

1. Quality over Quantity.
Please pick your best work. All work will be judged on it's quality before accepted.

2. Pick the appropriate folder.
There are subfolders for a reason, and their names are rather self-explanatory. If, however, you're not sure, pick the FEATURED folder.

3. Only one submission per subject.
Do not post multiple angles of the same thing. Do not post colored and BW identical drawings. Do not post one, then decide to withdraw it after a month then post a different variation. PICK ONE.

4. Common sense of artistic quality
While we try to be objective when judging quality, we're still just human. Please, make our work easier by not submitting stick figures and the like.

5. NO WIPs!
I cannot stress this enough. NO WIPs will be accepted! They conflict with rule 3 of the submission rules.

5a. There is one exception to this rule - unpainted finished conversions. There is even an appropriate folder for these.

6. No crossovers.
Yes, you can be inspired by another fandom to build or make something for the 40k world. But unless that something belongs in the 40k world completley, don't submit it, it will be denied automatically.

7. No Bronies art.
No. No, no no, and no. No.

8. All submissions are reviewed on a case-by-case basis.
I have to emphasize this again, even though it was already said. Just because something was accepted doesn't mean yours will or will not be.

9. Post relevant copyright info in your deviation description.
This goes especially for people who do photo manipulations - post link sources for all your images. "I found it on Google" won't stick, post a link to the actual work.

10. Work should have relevant 40k iconography in it.
This is specifically for art and conversions. Please CLEARLY show that the drawing/conversion belongs to the 40k world.

11. Dark Heresy work still has to follow all rules written here.

12. List of folders and their explanations:
eye-of-terror.deviantart.com/j…



Behavior rules

1. Be polite

2. Accept criticism.
Please be self-aware about your abilities. Please also be aware that all abilities can improve, regardless of talent. All criticism given is because we want you to give us your best.

3. Offer criticism.
If you see a good work in our galleries, please go to the artists page and comment on it. If you see a bad work, do so as well. All criticism is good criticism, people improve from it.

4. Remember that only admins get notifications on comments from the front page.
In other words - post there if you want to asks us something, not if you want to ask the community.



On Contests:
Periodically we will hold contests which are always for the sake of self-improvement. No prizes will be offered except the joy of winning and competing.

On Quality:
even though our quality requirements are low, please try to be above the minimal quality. As a rule of thumb, your work must be:
- For art: Finished, as in no sketchlines or unfinished appendages. Good proportions, good anatomy. Don't hide errors with shading.
- For minis: Finished mini, including the base. Photo must be clearly showing your painting skills. No sloppiness, no spillages or stains. Please try to keep the photograph focus on the mini by having clean backgrounds or similar. There is no minimum of how many colors you must have or whether you need to have effects, but the miniature must look crisp.
- For photographs: occasionally we will get a photo of a miniature where the intent was to use the mini as a prop. in that case miniature painting quality won't be judged, but the photo quality will be. Under photo quality we don't mean whether it's blurry or not or in color or not - this time we're talking content and whether it nailed it's idea or not. In other words, we will be VERY strict here.
- For written work: No Mary Sues. Please submit your work in English, and please try to have a concise storyline in it. Judging quality of a written work is hard, but as a rule of thumb, if we can read it and want more, it's good. If we're struggling through overly-complicated unneeded descriptions with no story and bad grammar, well it's bad.



SPECIAL RULES:

- Props for cosplay, masquerades and similar all go into the Misc folder. We don't care how well they're made, the Misc folder is for props. The ART folder is for Sculptures, Drawings, Digital Drawings and 3d Models only.
- Char sheets, resource material and similar should go either to Misc or to Written work. Yes, we accept such material.
- Chibis, Comics, Memes, Demotivationals etc, all fall into the "no crossovers" rule. While we do accept various styles, please, the work must be GRIM AND DARK in order to belong to the 40k world.
- Did we mention No Bronies?
- If there is something not covered by the rules, common sense will be applied. If anyone tries to purposefully dodge the rules instead of applying common sense, they will get banned, regardless of work quality.
- If we deny one of your work, it doesn't mean we'll deny all of your work. Don't be a primadonna about it and accept our ruling.
- And finally, we do not have to explain why we denied something. We sometimes do it, but that's out of the kindness of our heart, not because we have to.


If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

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:iconlaughingraptor:
LaughingRaptor Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Hello, I'm trying to post a submission into the appropriate folder, but it has me locked to "Featured". Am I missing something?
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:iconolovni:
Olovni Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
yes, only featured is opened currently (there was an addition to the rules journal some months (a year?) ago). we still didn't filter out the appropriate folders and rearranged them, due to lack of staff, so just put in featured and we'll filter it down to an appropriate folder later.
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:iconlaughingraptor:
LaughingRaptor Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay, will do.
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:iconmad78:
Mad78 Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
What is your stance on Weapon blueprints?
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:iconchaotea:
chaotea Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014
submit and we'll see.
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:iconolovni:
Olovni Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
we're ok with them as long as they follow the rules given above. Blueprints are nice as they help people build props for cosplay, or if done arty (like on parchment from 40k) they make awesome posters for a club.

i went over your gallery, your bolt pistol isn't exactly a blueprint, it's just a vector drawing. for it to be considered a "technical drawing" (aka a "blueprint") it needs to have annotations added. Or, you could make it more artsy and add some effects. In the state it's currently in, we'll accept it, it's clearly a bolt pistol drawing. My suggestions are purely from an artistic point.
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:iconmad78:
Mad78 Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Thanks. I've been considering reworking that pic to make it more like an actual blueprint with Mechanicus annotations and such. I'll submit it after I've done that. Cheers for the tips =)
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:iconaxx123:
Axx123 Featured By Owner May 26, 2014
if im working on a 40k texturepack for minecraft would I be able to post parts in hear? or just the pixel art/items
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:iconchaotea:
chaotea Featured By Owner May 27, 2014
Full set or nothing im afraid. That or you could upload it to the group, then simply replace the deviation every so often.
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:iconaxx123:
Axx123 Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2014
how?
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:iconchaotea:
chaotea Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2014
Use the 'Edit Deviation' section, and change the main file.
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:iconolovni:
Olovni Featured By Owner May 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
most probably a "no" on both, since it's intended for Minecraft. Will have to see it for a definite answer, though. Please read our group rules, specifically the "no crossovers" section.
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:iconaxx123:
Axx123 Featured By Owner May 26, 2014
ah that's why I asked, you have things for team fortress in the misc. category. so I wanted to ask to be safe.
I wanted to post things like:
items
axx123.deviantart.com/art/Chai…
axx123.deviantart.com/art/powe…
axx123.deviantart.com/art/forc…
re-skins
axx123.deviantart.com/art/Smit…
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:iconolovni:
Olovni Featured By Owner May 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
chainsword is a possible yes. the rest is currently a no, with the following reason: it doesn't look like it's for 40k. 40k powerswords have distinctive power-source details on their blades, plus a few skulls here and there can't hurt.

The texture for the techpriest... i can't judge at all. since i have no idea how will it look like when the texture is applied.
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:iconaxx123:
Axx123 Featured By Owner May 26, 2014
k, any suggestions for where to send the rest?
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:iconolovni:
Olovni Featured By Owner May 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
regarding groups? no idea :/ deviantart has been a little sparce with people these years, and i am not familiar with what group would want what. there should be minecraft groups here...
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:icongirot:
Girot Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
Regarding copyright information... Seeing as you gentlemen made it a point to bring this to our attention means you, conceivable, know what your talking about. I would strongly encourage the admins to create a reference post in the group journal with very basic examples of what it is you expect to see. Researching this particular topic is laborious and produces few useful results for what should be a simple solution. Some cut-n-paste blurbs that can be tailored to suit the supplicants needs would make this whole thing a lot easier for you and us. Thank you.
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:iconchaotea:
chaotea Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
Im afraid your over complicating it. We dont need you to submit a full legal document to us :)

Simply put: If youve used work that is not your own, put in the comments whos work it is, or at least a link e website that you got it from.

All the new rules are based on issues had in the past. People using work thats not thier own, and not saying anything, whicsure your aware is plagerism, an t the DA communty looks very much down upon. By setting this small requirment, we hope that we can stop yo being flamed to death ;)
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:icongirot:
Girot Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
No worries. :D I wasn't trying to be a troll btw I was only trying to help others who may not fully understand that you boyz are trying to help them protect themselves.
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:iconcolonelyeo:
ColonelYeo Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
While I'm sure it wasn't intended that way, I find rule 7 rather insulting. :X

I mean, what am I supposed to take away from that? I'm a brony. I do my best to keep the work submitted relevant and professional, and I have for as long as I've been in this group. Not that I've ever submitted any pony/40K artwork, (which I'm sure is the real intent of the rule), am I just supposed to pack my things now and leave?
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:iconchaotea:
chaotea Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012
Thats silly and you know it. It says no bronies, not that all people who submitt bronies should leave. We consider them to basically be crossovers.
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:iconcolonelyeo:
ColonelYeo Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's the thing, Choatea. Bronies aren't a type of art. They're a type of person. You're right, I pretty much knew what was meant by the rule. That the group is strictly about straight Warhammer artwork. "No crossovers". But it's what I saw that had me upset. Without getting technical, what I felt was going, or could be abused by someone, was something like this: [link]

But the issue has been resolved, so I'd like to call it water under the bridge at this point.
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:iconchaotea:
chaotea Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012
Fair enough. I think everyone here was under the impression that bronies was a classification of art rather than a person, no offece ment.
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:iconcolonelyeo:
ColonelYeo Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
No offense taken. :)
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:iconolovni:
Olovni Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Like story said, the rule 7 is within submissions. You don't need to leave, we just won't accept anything related to MLP as a submission.
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:iconstorykillinger:
StoryKillinger Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well I tried a more subtle approach but Olovni insisted on it to stay NoNOnOnOnOnONO..
I explained for a brief amount of time it was there that we just accept wh40k no ponies and other things that crossover...
That ponies should be submitted to a MLPFiM group.
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:iconsuziemypuma:
SuziemyPuma Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
thank you!
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:iconvyler:
vyler Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012
Rules look good! Question, though. So my Angry Marines, for example, are a meme, but are entirely 40k. Where do they, and things like them (Cultist-chan, other variant goofy chapters, Fuklaw, 40k "in jokes", marine on a toilet diorama, and other silly business) fall? Or does this fall under the case-by-case ruling?
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:iconolovni:
Olovni Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
your angry marines, even though they're a meme, are still 40k models. so they go into miniatures, as before. All other chapters will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis, yes, since they still need to look like they belong to 40k. Your models not only belong, they're playable by BA codex rules.

An actual meme picture of them (as in, a drawing, not a miniature), would go into misc.
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:iconvyler:
vyler Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012
gotcha!
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:iconchaotea:
chaotea Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
id say it depends. Your work is mostly 40k parody. This should be ok, as long as it stays firmly 40k. We will continue to judge on a case by case, but your models are generaly of a high quality that the paradoric (is that a real word?) nature is less important. Again, i stress case - by -case.
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:iconvyler:
vyler Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012
It is NOW!
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:iconstorykillinger:
StoryKillinger Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
noup. Not a real word.
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:iconchaotea:
chaotea Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
OR.. IS... IT? DUN DUN DURRRRRRRNNNNNNNN!
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:iconstorykillinger:
StoryKillinger Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hehehe... pretty sure over here...
PRETTY SHUAAAAAR
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:icondavidnm:
davidnm Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012
Many thanks for writing these out; I've favourited the entry so I can find it for ease of reference later.
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:iconstorykillinger:
StoryKillinger Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They will always be at the top of EoT main page.
Under RULES.
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:icondavidnm:
davidnm Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
Thank you!
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:iconolovni:
Olovni Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
the old rules were always accessible from the main page (there is a link on the main page) but people were seldomly reading them.
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:iconbrookm:
BrookM Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
What makes Dark Heresy stand out as point 11?
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:iconolovni:
Olovni Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
we are having a lot of submissions of Dark heresy portraits that could very well be portraits of whoever. Hence the special note.
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:iconinkary:
Inkary Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
6. No crossovers.
Yes, you can be inspired by another fandom to build or make something for the 40k world. But unless that something belongs in the 40k world completley, don't submit it, it will be denied automatically.

7. No Bronies.
No. No, no no, and no. No.

Ilu you bb V 3V
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:iconolovni:
Olovni Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i tought you might like that :D
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:iconelminus:
Elminus Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012
Excuse me good sire, in the name of Blood God, why no crossovers. I do not mentioned Ponies, but for example some nice crossovers with Helghasts from Killzone, or Mass Effect, could be really nice.
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:iconolovni:
Olovni Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice, but no. If Helghast isn't a Space Marine or CSM for example, it will be denied. You may be inspired by Mass Effect or Killzone to draw or convert something for 40k, but that something still must belong to 40k.

Crossover drawings with both fandoms shown are... not something we're after atm. Let's enrich the 40k world first.
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:iconepsfang:
EpsFang Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Student General Artist
Also... not sure if you're just reluctant to mention it or not... but crossovers are actually illegal according to the GamesWorkshop copyright laws. Something the only thing I dislike about GamesWorkshop, but still a biggy. Also a rather bad marketing strategy as, although it keeps GamesWorkshop universes pure, it greatly hampers the spread of GamesWorkshop. Which is one reason why the Horus Heresy spread so quickly, the fact that the Imperium did not permit any melding of Imperial doctrine with what the locals already had made Imperial occupation that much harder for the locals to stomach... and almost certainly created a subconscious undercurrent of discontent with the Imperium that was allowed to manifest with Horus's betrayal.

I sure hope someone from GamesWorkshop who has influence in their copyright department reads the ^.^
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:iconolovni:
Olovni Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
actually, crossovers are not forbidden. By GW laws, you may not draw ANYTHING regarding their fandom without their consent :) Wich is ok according to law, since you can make a bad name for the company by some accident or antyhing. By GW copyright laws, all drawings on the web everywhere of 40k are illegal. They just won't prosecute you because it's, well, pointless. Unless you try and sell them, that's a little moot point wheter you're charging for your skills or riding on their thunder with their creations.

For miniatures, however, it's not so moot: You may use non-gw minis... in your home :) At official tournaments (d'uh) you must use GW models or scratchbuilt models (again, d'uh). And photographing minis, even minis WITH conversions from another customer are OK, as long as you post info it's a GW mini.


All of this, however, has nothing to do with our group rules. Like stated on the front page - YOU and YOU ALONE are at fault if you break any laws, not us ;)
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:iconchaotea:
chaotea Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2012
Weve had alot of crossoverers recently that, say, would put a space marine in a star wars image. This kind of thing we dont take. If its 40k enough we may take it, but no promisis.

see rule 8.
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:icontherock2011:
therock2011 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Favorite Rule...No bronies
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:iconkreepingspawn:
KreepingSpawn Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
:salute:
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